Midweek Mumble – To Double Dip or not to Double Dip
Another week, another rant sorry Mumble from the great Aussie writer, Rodney. This week he asks the question, to double dip or not to double dip.
In my life, I’ve owned four copies of Stargate. Not the variety of television series, but the original Roland Emmerich film. The first, a widescreen VHS copy. The second, a poorly mastered Region 4 DVD, before upgrading from that to a nicer – albeit still flawed – Region 1 version. Now, flying through the US mail system, is my recent Amazon-purchased Blu-Ray edition, supposedly even better quality than any of the preceding DVD versions. In my life, I’ve owned three copies of Resident Evil – a pitiful R4 version on DVD, the R1 Superbit edition, and now the Blu-Ray. Multiple copies of Armageddon, The Rock, Harry Potter 1-4, Blade Runner, heck, even Lord Of The Rings; passion for owning films on DVD and Blu-Ray is an expensive hobby at the best of times. Scott’s already covered the theme of cinema cost in a previous Midweek Mumble, but today I want to cover off on something I think film studios secretly use to bolster their bottom lines at the expense of film enthusiasts.
The Double Dip.
One of the most famous example of a Double Dip was the recent release of Transformers: Dark Of The Moon on Blu-Ray. Michael Bay wanted to get the film out onto HD media as soon as he could, so Paramount released a movie-only edition to the public. They did this with the understanding of their various media outlets that a more extras-laden edition would follow in due course, although were you a bit of an internet novice, you’d never be aware of that. Two Blu-Ray releases of the film, barely six months apart, capitalizing on the small market who will by the first version with the intent of upgrading to the second upon release. Some would work the cynical angle and say that this is a clever marketing ploy to dredge more money out of the audience, a rather subversive capitalist ideology which pits desire off against restraint. Personally, I skipped over the bare-bones release so I could enjoy the full blooded version, but I’d imagine there’s a few folks out there who didn’t, either because they couldn’t wait or they didn’t know. Those of you reading this will probably have at least a minimal knowledge of studio shenanigans like dual Blu-Ray dips, but the casual film watcher usually does not.
If you cast your mind back, this little strategy isn’t the first time a film’s been given a bare-bones release well before a full edition. James Cameron’s Avatar was given the same treatment. Fans were divided, amongst those who saw a corporate mentality to skim millions more from film fans and caved in to it, and those who saw it for what it was and waited for the inevitable full version. The question that really needs to be answered is this: was it truly necessary to have dual release strategy for these films? Was there a market push to have Transformers 3 released well before a fully laden extra-features disc, or was it truly a desire from the corporate pencil pushers to scrape up more cash.
The classic double dip is something which has plagued the home video market since the days of VHS tapes. Re-releasing movies in “new” or “remastered” variants has been something studios have done since home cinema consumers developed the ability to take money from their wallets. Bring on DVD, and all those VHS tapes suddenly needed upgrading. Now, Blu-Ray has the same pull. Sure, there’s usually a good reason to upgrade a copy of a film; enhanced picture and audio being the primary one, and the addition of extra features being a close second. This natural Double Dip requirement isn’t what I’m railing about here, however. What I hate, more than anything, is the scurrilous Double Dip. Usually, it’s an “anniversary” release of a film designed to cash in on a soon-to-be-released sequel or the death of a star or something otherwise important to the films’ history. The one where they throw in an extra 5 minute reunion interview as well as all the other extra features from a previous release, making buying this edition almost a “must own” to the completists out there. This is the kind of thing that sticks in my craw. I’m not a huge “bonus features” fan, because I usually only watch them once and that’s it. Obviously, releases like the Lord Of The Rings Extended Versions and the extraordinary documentary accompanying that are exceptions, they’re not the rule.
Less frustrating are the obvious “Directors Cut” re-releases. Directors like James Cameron and Peter Jackson are known for issuing multiple versions of their films, Aliens being perhaps the most well known example. When it was released theatrically, Aliens, James Cameron’s sequel to Ridley Scott’s classic Alien, was deemed too long by 20th Century Fox and forced Cameron to cut the film to a preferred length. Eventually, the home cinema industry gave Cameron the platform he needed to give the fans of the film the full version he’d envisioned originally. The Aliens Directors Cut remains the definitive example of a film actually improved by the inclusion of formerly excised material. Ridley Scott himself is no stranger to the Directors Cut – his 80′s classic Blade Runner has about a half dozen differing versions, if you believe the internet, most of which have ended up on DVD and Blu-Ray at some stage. The most recent Blu-Ray release from Warner Bros tried to ensure you’d never need to by another copy of that film – the ultimate edition included just about every variant of the film they had, and more extra features than you could poke a Replicant at. Scott’s more recent product has also had the same exposure – Kingdom Of Heaven came out to a dull thud in cinemas, and was improved in almost every way on it’s eventual Directors Cut DVD release. And from what I’ve seen online, the Blu-Ray version getting about is the Directors Cut only. Funny, that.
Buy cynicism amongst film and home media fans is rife with studio greed front and center. I’m sure people don’t mind paying for better versions of a film they love, as long as it’s worthwhile to do so. But the recent Transformers 3 debacle left me deeper in my cynical view of capitalist corporate greed, and no doubt this kind of thing will occur again and again as long as the money makes it a feasible option. Disney’s redoubtable option to lock their big earners away in a “vault” for the best part of a decade is equally as cynical a move, I think, and it’s a pet peeve of mine when studios will artificially influence the market using such devices. I know, it’s not against the law, and we’re suckers if we fall for it, but doesn’t it just piss you off?
At what point do we stop Double Dipping? How much money do we spend on buying the same film again and again, on different formats and in different “editions”, before we say enough? The obvious Double Dips -the ones designed as an unsubtle cash-grab – frustrate the hell out of me, and I often wonder where it’ll all stop. Hopefully, it’ll stop before the home cinema market isn’t completely undermined by a useless “anniversary edition” of Never Say Never.
About The Author – Rodney Twelftree
Aussie film fan Rodney has been writing about film, DVD and Blu-Ray since 1998, when he became Chief Reviewer at a now-defunct Adelaide-based online retailer. A fan of blockbuster and mainstream cinema, as well as dabbling in arthouse and independent forms of the industry, Rodney prefers to spend his nights and weekends in front of the television watching the latest release on Blu-Ray instead of out getting sloppy drunk like many of his friends. When he’s not out in the Front Room, Rodney can be found writing reviews for his own website www.fernbyfilms.com, helping good mate Al K Hall over at The Bar None, and dabbling in lists over at Top 10 Films.
Do you agree with Rodney? Have you fallen Foul of the Double Dip? Comment below…




















































I have very small issues with double dipping since I barely buy any movies at all – only if I can’t find any other way to get hold of them, as renting or borrowing at my library. And I’m still stuck with DVD, so no doubledipping with Blue-Ray either.
For some reason I don’t feel the urge to own movies as strongly as most other film geeks apparently do.
That’s fair, Jess… not eveyone collects films like I do…. but then, there’s a lot of people who do!
As I had very few videos when DVDs came along I’ve been lucky enough not to have had to double dip. I would never dream of owning a film on blu-ray that I have on DVD unless it comes with a boxset of films or is a very good deal and I still buy DVDs because of the limited catalogue of older films on Blu-ray.
You make a great point about studios ripping off the public but I think true film fans are wary enough to do their research before making a purchase.
I admit, I’m a lot more careful now about re-buying a film on Blu that I already own on DVD. This is a common problem for film fans, I think. For me, though, the Blu has to offer a substantial picutre and/or video improvement, or exceptionally good bonus features – I’m currently tossing up whether to upgrade my Alien Quad DVD set for the Blu version, which has a bunch of new additional features…….
I’m not sure the wife will understand, though! Thanks for playing, Tom!
The chance of me buying a film again a second time is slim to none. Unless of course my boy uses the first one as a frisbee.
I usually end up hunting the used films on Amazon if I cannot find a film streaming somewhere.
nice rant Rodney
Thanks 3Guys! My daughter has used a couple of my DVD’s as frisbees too, and I’ve had to repurchase and put them higher up on the shelf…. LOL!!!
I have recently triple dipped on the film Two-Lane Blacktop, adding the Blu-Ray to the Universal and Criterion Collection releases.
That’s strictly a one-off though and I’m certainly wary of the studio rip-offs you highlight, luckily there are very few modern films that I want to own.
I think it’s less likely for classic catalogue films generally, for fans to have to double dip on. Obvious examples to the contrary would be films such as Ben Hur, Casablanca and Gone With The Wind, but in the main I think catalogue films rarely see too many double dips occur.
oh, hell, I expected something naughty under this post title
LOL!! I see how that would mislead you…. you filthy minded little man, you!
Double Dip… ? Mmm I’ve had Star Wars on. VHS, Widescreen VHS, Spec Ed W/S VHS. Laserdisc Original, Laser Disc Spec Ed, DVD and now BluRay ..Its not the only film I’ve had so many of either.
Nowadays I get annoyed that I cant just buy the Blu of a film on one disc without a digital copy or a DVD attached.
Urgh…. don’t get me started on Star Wars. There’s gonna be Octo-dipping eventually….. grrrr…..
Good rant Rodney, I’m guilty of double dipping many times. I’ve owned 6 versions of Terminator 2, first on VHS back in the days, then the widescreen VHS, then the crappy DVD first edition; the ultimate 2-discs DVD version; the crappy BD first edition and finally the current version I own on BD, which was supposely remastered but still looks like crap in 1080p. I was smart enough not to double dip on The Lord of the Rings trilogy when it first came out on BD, waited for the extended editions.
The Bond films collection are coming out this fall and I think I’ll only buy the ones that have never been released on BD. I won’t double dip by buying the whole set, hopefully they’ll start selling them separately soon.
The Bond discs are a bit of an issue for a lot of folks: there’s folks who bought the single-release versions of the films they DID put on BD, then they stopped and are now re-releasing them inside that massive box-set… so there’s going to be a whole slew of Bond films coming onto eBay right quick, I’d wager…..
And I’m with you on T2. I’m in the same boat.
I do find this policy very frustrating. The worst occurrence for me appeared with the Lord of the Rings and this idea that Peter Jackson released better, definitive versions of the films after everyone had purchased the original theatrical releases.
What they needed to do was include the theatrical versions WITH the Extended versions the first time, so even if you didn’t pick up the stand alone theatrical versions, you’d still get them when you got the extended editions…..
Us film fans are suckers aren’t we? After amassing a beautiful and amazing VHS collection while working at Blockbuster as I bought all the videos that were going seriously cheap when DVD started to take over, I then finally gave up and got a DVD player and now I have boxes and boxes of VHS’s in the loft that may never be watched again. When Blu-ray came along I stopped buying films. I signed up to Lovefilm and now I just won’t buy films anymore. What’s the point? Blu-ray will be gone soon in favour of some new technology. Therefore I won’t even single dip anymore, let alone double dip.
There comes a point where you have to draw a line in the sand and say “no more”. And it’s become obvious through just this article that that line is becoming wider and wider the more studios try to foist on us consumers.
I don’t think I bought many movies a second time, only one I can think of was the Godfather trilogy from VHS to DVD
Nostra’s example is one way of curbing the need to double dip! Thanks man!
I hate when studios do this. That’s why I usually wait a few months or more before deciding to get the box set. Of course if it’s a smaller film that I’ve been wanting to watch for a long time and I know there won’t be a second one released anytime soon, I don’t mind buying it right away. I tell you it’s always all about the bottom line w/ the studio execs, it’s repulsive!
Damn those capitalist pigs, eh?
It’s a bit hit-and-miss from time to time, I think, so regular film fans have learned to do a bit of research before opting in to buying a film….
So, no possibility of an Anniversary Edition or Director’s Cut or Ultimate/Extreme/Definitive Version of Thrash Bus II, then? Oh, well.
I’ll confess: I bought the original Blu-Ray release of Transformers: Dark of the Moon. I’ll admit that I wasn’t aware that there were no extras offered until I had it in my hand. And so, two thoughts entered my mind: the first was – no extras? You skivving shite bastards! But the second was that voice of reason that said: they’ll re-release with more stuff down the line due to “demand” (top five highest grossing film of all time during its cinematic run, yet almost everyone wanted to tear it a new one after seeing it! Especially after the uproar about the second film…) and then that little voice went: do you watch them? I went… No, not really. I’ve seen the Making of already. I mainly wanted the film… and the Digital Copy. So, I’m happy with my choice. No more money for you, Michael Bay… until the next Transformers film comes out, or some bright spark develops an even better format than Blu-Ray… Now, that is something that can be quite irritating: THE UPGRADE.
Greg! My man!! Thanks for stopping by! Yeah, I heard about Dark of The Moon’s douple dip well before hand, so I resisted purchasing it in the movie-only edition – but like you, a lot of folks might not have been aware of it. Which is the whole problem, I think. A lot of folks don’t know, understand or care about what the studios have planned, and the studios hope it stays that way to make more money…..
And no, no anniversary edition of Thrash Bus II on the horizon, I’m afraid…. LOL!!
I personally could care less about new releases of DVDs I already own. IF I own a movie, it’s only for the movie, not the extra features.
A few exceptions aside, I’m with you Castor!
Depending on the film…I’ve tripled dipped in some cases. The biggest offenders are LOTR, Star Wars, and Almost Famous. I don’t mind about double dipping as long as it’s a quality upgrade in sound and video. Special features alone are not worth a double dip IMHO.