Thursday List – Top 10 Femme Fatales
This week FRC’s very good friend and master commenter Jack Deth is taking over the Thursday List. I am sure you will all agree he is a master when it comes to film knowledge. I give you Jack Deth’s Top 10 Femme Fatales..
Greetings all and sundry!
Scott has been gracious enough to allow me another crack at a Top Ten List. My chosen topic is one that is slowly devolving into extinction. Due to touchy-feely lawyers, suits and lobbyists. Who established a solid beach head in Hollywood in the early 1990s and have done their best to move the Femme Fatale into the annals of history.
Well, I do not hold to such nonsense and aim to misbehave! It’s time to give some loving to those pioneering women of nearly forgotten cinema. The staple of countless Noir films of the 1940s and later. Who drank, smoked and gave as good as they got. Reveling in their God given ability and some thought, right. To play handsome, square jawed men for saps and fools. Without a second’s thought. And look good doing it!
To that end, I present my personal choices for The Top Ten Femme Fatales In Films.
#10:Ann Savage’s Vera in Detour.
Edgar Ulmer’s original one hour and seven minute, no budget Erector Set of the genre from 1945. Where a hapless, down on his luck musician, Al Roberts, played with conscience driven paranoia by Tom Drake. Tries running away from one death on a cross country trip. Only to pick up Vera just west of the California border for a road trip to Hell. It seems Vera knew the louse of a man who died in Al’s company. And could, with little help pin a murder rap on him. So Vera taunts and torments. Simply because she can. Until something unforeseen happens.
#9: Ava Gardner as Kitty Collins in Robert Siodmak’s The Killers, from 1946.
Kitty is Albert Dekker’s ‘Big Jim’ Colfax’s woman, but she easily wraps former boxer, Burt Lancaster’s ‘Swede’ Anderson around her finger. To do her dirty work in claiming a recent enormous score. Told mostly in flash back through the actions of insurance investigator, Edmund O’Brien. As he peels back the layers and connects the dots through many memorable scenes. The film planted both Lancaster and Ms. Gardner firmly on the map. And with good reason!
#8: Peggy Cummings as Annie Laurie Starr in Gun Crazy. By Joseph H. Lewis in 1950.
Well meaning, Bart Tare falls for crack carnival pistol shot, Annie. Marries her. Finds out that no matter how hard he works or how much money he makes. It’s never enough to please Annie, As the two go off on a interstate robbery spree with Annie in charge. Until Bart quickly discovers that he feels complete with a gun in hand and that Annie is far more comfortable with killing than Bart ever could be. Excellent camera work and scathing dialogue put this film a cut above most,
#7: Jane Greer’s Kathie in Jacques Tourneur’s classic 1947 Noir, Out of the Past.
Kathie runs away from Kirk Douglas. Who hires Robert Mitchum’s Jeff Bailey at his shadowy best. To head south and find her. He does and falls for her at first sight. Kathie doesn’t mind having Jeff around to do intimidate, persuade and do the heavy lifting and make her crooked dreams come true. Until murder ensues during a knock down, drag out fight and Kathie schemes to leave savvy, world weary Jeff looking at a distant Gallows. In an epic Noir with no happy ending in sight. Required viewing!
#6: Lana Turner as Cora Smith in The Postman Always Rings Twice, from 1946.
Based loosely on James M. Cain’s seamy masterwork. John Garfield’s Frank Chambers really should have known better than to fall for cafe and filling station owner, Cecil Kellaway’s much younger wife. As Cora flirts she and Frank fall in love and ponder ways of getting rid of Mr. Nick Smith. Once the deed is done, the film becomes a testament to the dangers of playing around with infidelity and adultery. Though toned down for the censors of the day. Lana Turner mesmerizes in ways that leave its later, 1981 re-make far in the dust.
#5: Barbara Stanwyck’s bravura Phyllis Dietrichson in Billy Wilder’s 1946 Double Indemnity.
A superb execution of the James M. Cain novel. With a screenplay by Raymond Chandler and tweaked by Wilder. Told in flash back by a wounded, bleeding out Fred MacMurray in one of his last great, handsome louse roles. Phyllis rules every scene she is in. Subtly sinking her teeth and pulling MacMurray’s insurance salesman, Walter Neff into her web surrounding a huge accidental death policy. Then trying to throw him to the wolves before a final confrontation that doesn’t end well, a step ahead of Edward G. Robinson and the law.
#4: Kathleen Turner in Lawrence Kasdan’s 1981 debut Neo-Noir, Body Heat.
Tall, leggy, blonde and bored. Matty Walker goes trolling one summer’s night and hooks supposed lady’ man and attorney, William Hurt’s Ned Racine. For a long, suspenseful game for which Matty is superbly skilled. Ned hasn’t got a chance and he kind of knows it. Through arson and other felonies. As he slowly discovers that he is nowhere near as smart as he should be in a benchmark of the Neo~Noir genre.
#3: A tie! My post. My rules! Angelica Huston and Annette Benning in Stephen Frears’ The Grifters, from 1990.
In a superb take on a Jim Thompson novel and Donald E. Westlake screenplay of high stakes criminals who rarely get caught. Ms. Huston’s Lily Dillon is a hard as nails, cold as ice confidence woman who loves no man. With the exception being her estranged son. Small time con man, John Cusack as Roy. Fate befalls Roy in the form of a brutal beat down after a failed scam at a local bar. Lily finds out and come a running. Mother and son argue as Roy recovers and discovers Annette Bennings’ Myra Langtry. A ‘roper’ for a crew of high end girifters living off her latest score. The two women then scheme for Roy’s soul. All bets are off once Myra shows up with Lily’s hairstyle. For a wondrously suspenseful ride and an ending that no one sees coming!
#2: Sharon Stone in 1992′s Basic Instinct.
The film that put Ms. Stone on the map. As sexual predator, carnivore and best selling writer, Catherine Tramell, Who manipulates men and women as easily as other lesser mortals breathe. And loves doing it! Quickly setting her sights on Michael Douglas’ flawed, nearly burned out Detective Nick Curran. Then deftly wringing him dry of his usefulness to her. The photo I’ve selected kind of says it all!
#1: Linda Fiorentino in John Dahl’s masterful 1994 Neo~Noir The Last Seduction
Ms. Fiorentino plays stone cold Bitch and stiletto heeled, phone scam boiler room mistress, Bridget Gregory. Who decides to rip off her clumsy, pharmaceutical drug dealing husband, Clay, memorably played by Bill Pullman, for an nylon A-Bag full of money. Bridget moves to the city. Changes her name. Finds a mark in big, dumb Peter Berg’s Mile Swale. While leading both private investigators and cops on a merry and sometimes violent chase. Without a hair out of place, Bridget deftly and kinkily sets Mike for Clay’s murder. Then destroys the last bit of physical evidence connecting them with a butane lighter in the back seat of a plush limo while Mike awaits trial behind bars. All to the strains of what sounds like Dave Brubeck’s ‘Take Five’. A marvelous, way ahead of its time little film that denied Ms. Fiorentino of an Oscar nomination. Due to HBO buying its right and releasing it to television.
Honorable Mention:
Ellen Barkin’s Sunny Boyd in Walter Hill’s 1989 Johnny Handsome. Sunny is part of a Smash & Grab jewelry crew in New Orleans, who has its leader Lance Hendricksen, under her thumb. As double crossed, deformed, left for dead. hired help. Mickey Rourke. Under heavier make-up than when he played Marv in Sin City goes to prison and returns with a new face. And malicious pay back in his heart!
Also, Ms. Barkin’s Helen Cruger in Harold Becker’s Sea Of Love from the same year. Who doesn’t break a sweat while toying with Al Pacino’s mid life crisis, Detective Frank Keller before the final scene.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Jack Deth for submitting this amazing and well constructed list, but hey this is Jack we are talking about, he does have the knowledge of an encyclopaedia!!
Who are your favourite Femme Fatales? Have we missed any? Comment below…






































Thanks Jack/Kevin for another brilliantly written and very insightful list!! You rock, Sir!
S
Hi, Scott:
Thank You!
For the chance to dust off some cobwebs and revel in an arena that was an anticipated treat when growing up, but has become so far and distant today.
I put up a review by Jack as well today
I’m sure the day will come that every blog I visit has some insightful Jack Deth post
Nice article and I don’t know too much about femme fatales to be honest. I remember Sea of Love as a movie I saw at the time with my whole class, because one guy recommended it. It wasn’t to everyones liking…
Hi, Nostra:
Thanks for dropping by and opining. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
One of the reasons I enjoy doing Guest Reviews and other posts is to shine some light on areas and films that are memorable. Yet nearly forgotten nowadays.
That the most notable role in this arena is from a film made seventeen years ago speaks volumes. On how safe, mundane and inoffensive the overall mindset and perception of films have become.
Great choices JD, I like that you included some modern ones too.
One of my personal favorites not on your list is Rita Hayworth from The Lady from Shanghai
Hi, Bonjour!
Thanks so much for dropping by and adding to the discussion.
Excellent choice!
I’d thought of adding ‘The Lady From Shanghai’. Not just for Ms. Hayworth’s silky performance, but for the multiple mirror image ‘Crazy House’ sequence. Which may be grist for another Top Ten list of strange, memorable, freaky film sequences.
Sharon Stone would be my number one, she is the symbol of femme fatale on film
Hi, Dezmond!
Thanks for taking the time to read and comment so graciously.
I don’t doubt that many share your choice for #1.
Ms. Stone held that spot with me as well. Until Linda Fiorentino’s Bridget Gregory made the scene and absolutely reveled in being a bad girl on countless levels in the role of a lifetime.
Great list! I like the mix of modern and classic femme fatale. The 1990′s films you’ve listed are often overlooked for 1940′s and 1950′s films. Even if I am one of those who prefer classic films I like that you took those not so obvious choices and put them in the top spots.
Welcome, Michael:
Thanks for dropping by!
I’d thought of just limiting my field to the classic Noirs of the 1940s and 50s. Then decided to widen it when Kathleen Turner popped into my head. Which led to the remainder of my top four.
I’m glad you liked my list and hope to see your comments more often.
I’m not as familiar with Noir as you, but i’m kind of surprised Sherry from the Killing isn’t on here.
Hi, dirtywithclass:
So glad that you dropped by and added to the mix with such an excellent choice and catch!
I’d not even thought of Stanley Kubrick’s film or one of Marie Windsor’s best, most acidly scathing roles.
Btw Jack what is your definition of a Femme Fatale? Like is it any female character that is manipulative, or is it something a bit more specific?
Hi, dirtywithclass:
A very good question. Though with no pat, solid answers.
A Femme Fatale uses her beauty and looks to tempt, persuade, manipulate and eventually dominate a man to do her bidding. More often until a murder occurs. Either committed by the Femme Fatale, as in ‘Out of the Past’, ‘The Killers’ or ‘The Last Seduction’. Leaving the sap framed, or at least a blatant accessory.
Or committed by the sap. As in ‘Double Indemnity’ or ‘The Postman Always Rings Twice’. Where the Femme Fatale holds the sap’s fate in her hands. At least until the cops arrive.
Your choice of Marie Windsor. Like mine of Ann Savage don’t fall solidly into these parameters. Neither have committed a murder. Though both are experts in finding vulnerable spots within their men and twisting verbal knives to get what they want.
While giving memorable performances of their lifetimes.
I hope this helps, rather than confuses.
So glad to see Linda Fiorentino make the list, and at number one at that! The Last Seduction is a film that really does deserve more love in general. Such a good film, and Fiorentino does a great job in it. I need to catch up on my femme fatales it seems, as I have only seen #4-1 on your list. Double Indemnity is a film I am hoping to finally see in the new year. I’ve been putting that one off for far to long.
Welcome, CS!
Thanks so much for taking the time to read and leave such great comments.
Linda Fiorentino channeled the trappings of the grand Femme Fatales before her and took it to a whole other level in her role as Bridget Gregory. More than worth the efforts of seeking out.
‘Double Indemnity’ is a great place to start in the early classics. The entire cast rocks, but Barbara Stanwyck, even more so!
Great post, Jack!! I love that image you used here too, very fitting indeed.
I’ve only seen three from your list: Body Heat, Basic Instinct and The Last Seduction (WOW, they’re all very sexually-charged titles, aren’t they?) and totally agree with those choices. Whatever happened to Linda Fiorentino??
I should check out the rest of the classic fares you’ve got here. My friend Vince and I was just talking about Out of the Past when we’re discussing Robert Mitchum.
Hi, Ruth!
I’ve been hoping you would drop by and add to the discussion.
The top image is all Scott’s work and most worthy of a shout out and ‘Well done!”
What’s cool and what I love about ‘The Last Seduction’ is that it’s shot almost exclusively from Linda Fiorentiono’s Bridget Gregory’s point of view. Devoting much more time to her. How she thinks and what she does. Than to her husband, Clay. Or sap and fall guy, Mike Swale combined. A rarity in most Noirs.
Linda Fiorentino won her role in ‘Men In Black’ in a poker game with Barry Sonnenfeld. Along with around $1,200. She played smaller parts in lesser films before creating her own production company.
‘Out of the Past’ would be a great place to start! Mitchum and Greer’s roles seem custom made. Even Kirk Douglas’ character of Whit is silently intimidating for the brief time he’s on screen.
Great list JD. And of course, I’m lame and have only seen Double Indemnity and Detour. Barbara Stanwyck gives a performance for the ages and a near career best. She’s a good actress to begin anyone’s classic film education with.
And speaking of Ann Savage, she’s like wine, getting better when older. Her swan song is in this little Canadian film called My Winnipeg, giving nuance to a central maternal role.
I’m also nursing the book The Postman Always Rings twice, which is sad because it’s only 100 long. I wanna finish it and see the movie in its entirety to compare.
Welcome, Paolo!
Thanks so much for dropping by and joining the party with some great comments.
Barbara Stanwyck absolutely rocks out her role as Phyllis. Exuding class and tempting sexuality in ways few could in a plump, juicy role. Making it much more than it first appears. It’s no wonder Fred MacMurray is so easily swept away and doesn’t stand a chance.
I’ve always been surprised at how much story is packed into Detour . And how the ball really gets rolling once Ann Savage makes the scene.
Great lit Jack! I loved Detour – my dad made me watch it once he knew I was getting into silence films. I guess I have him to thank for introducing me to film noir!
As a fan of noir, I am stumped as to any additional femme fatales to add to the list. After some thought (and a little research
) Here are a couple:
Brigid O’Shaughnessy (Mary Astor) – Maltese Falcon
Ellen Berent Harland (Gene Tierney) – Leave Her to Heaven
This one is a little stretch for me but Veda Pierce Forrester (Ann Blyth) – Mildred Pierce. I say it is a stretch because I think I am grasping a bit to say absolutely that this is noir. But she deserves mention because is just plain evil.
Katharine “Kitty” March (Joan Bennett) – Scarlet Street and as The Woman in the Window – a somewhat overlooked hardboiled dame
You should do a follow up piece – top 10 “Mugs” in cinema!
Hi, iluv!
I’ve been hoping you’d drop by and add to the mix.
Good on your dad for opening your eyes to Noir! And for offering some great suggestions regarding Femme Fatales.
I’d thought of adding Mary Astor’s Brigdet O’Shaughnessy, but lost out to Peggy Cummings in Gun Crazy . A little known favorite of mine.
You raise an excellent point with Ann Blythe’s Veda in Mildred Pierce ! Giving a bravura performance of a manipulative, young Femme Fatale in the making. I love watching Veda wrap Zachary Scott’s Monte around her dainty, delicate finger.
Even more so with Morgan Turner. Late of the independent film, Thirteen and her silkily evil turn as Veda in HBO’s re-make of Mildred Pierce from earlier this year.
Good eye and nice catches!
Yeah Peggy Cummings wins out. She was a real piece of work in Gun Crazy.
Hi again, iluv:
Peggy Cummings knocked it out of the park playing Annie in Gun Crazy . Though never returned to another Femme Fatale role. Peggy kept working through the 1950s to early sixties. Her roles became softer and much more eloquent, Especially playing opposite Dana Andrews in Jacques Tourneur’s shadowy, atmospheric Horror film Curse of the Demon in 1957.
Well worth a look.
Interesting list, Jack. A lot of choices that are new to me, mixed in with ones I know all about. Well done!
Hi, Tyler!
I’m glad you dropped by. Took a look around and added to the conversation.
Glad you liked my choices and some piqued your curiosity. The list took a long time to put together and line up in my head, but a short time to get my choices down correctly.
Though now I’m curious. As to which you know well and which are new to you.
I’m going to guess that you lean more toward the Modern than Classic examples. Either way, all are definitely worth exploring.
This thread may be closed, but, for a viciously savage, neo-noir, top-notch example of femmme (yes, triple ”m’s” for this one) fatale ferocity, a tip of the fedora needs to go to Ms. Lena Olin in ‘Romeo Is Bleeding’. Yeowwch!! She’s scary good and channels all the archetypal sexy deadliness of a femme fatale.
P.S. (Forgot to mention that i’m a huge film noir fan, so, kudos to the rest on your list! Good mix of classic and modern, all fine examples. I’m also glad someone gave a shout-out to the inimitable Ms. Rita Hayworth. And though she’s not the first that comes to mind when I think femme fatale, I’d still like to give a little love to Veronica Lake – - she and Alan Ladd sure were fun to watch).
Welcome, Meredith:
Something told me to check what’s been going on.
Thanks for dropping by and adding such great observations!
Rita Hayworth was close to a given for her Kitty in “The Killers”. Using her beauty, wits and wiles to get what she wanted in one of the great flash back style noirs of the 1940s.
Veronica Lake caught my attention early on as poor little rich girl, Janet, in “The Glass Key” from 1948. Then sultrily stole my breath away opposite Alan Ladd in “This Gun for Hire” and “The Blue Dahlia”. Not exactly femme fatale roles. But ones where she holds her own. Gives as well as she gets. And looks great doing it!
Thanks for the classy welcome, Jackdeth. I’m new to your website and just joined… I was, naturally, drawn to the film noir discussion. I look forward to lookin around a bit and enjoyin the web-view. Cheers!! – M*
And yes…. Kudos to all the films you named with Veronica Lake. I think the first one I saw out of those three was “The Blue Dahlia”. It made an impression. So much fun, even though, true…not quite femme fatale.
And Ava Gardner as Kitty in “The Killers” was also a lot of vicious fun. Rita Hayworth made history as ‘Gilda’ though I did enjoy the strange blonde turn in ‘The Lady from Shanghai’…but that may be due to the fact that I liked the idea of Welles and Hayworth so much. Again, Cheers! – - M*